Unveiling the Astrology of Christmas with Medium Brandon Russ - Harmonize Your Life Podcast Ep. 6

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You know, basically they're conditioned to lie to us because they were lied to. And we perpetuate this big giant friggin lie and we talk about a greater good of the lie. And the greater good is, well, you don't want to take away that sense of faith, that sense of wonder, that innocence, that whatever. [00:00:16] Speaker B: And I might have rejected them at first, but then I realized, like, oh, our beliefs are just the lies we tell ourselves. And this lie makes better sense than this lie as far as keeping my nervous system calm. So. So treating that little girl inside, you're. [00:00:31] Speaker A: Talking about coping mechanisms. [00:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm going to grab onto this belief system, you know, or this idea of past lives. I will tell you, as a physical therapist doing myofascial release and processing trauma out of the body, I had patients have past life experiences on my table before I knew what that was like. [00:00:51] Speaker A: If you just heard me and didn't hear the person's reaction, you would think I was batshit crazy because I'm just spewing things. I'm just like, yeah, and they're showing me this and they're doing this and you're just like. But if you hear the other person on the other side saying, yeah, that was exactly my mother. This is exactly the thing she would say. Like, they're giving me what I need as empirical evidence. By the way, it's not quantitative. Except for experience driven. [00:01:15] Speaker B: Aha. [00:01:18] Speaker A: So our quest to find our truth isn't in numbers. It's in empirical evidence of experiences. [00:01:26] Speaker C: Welcome to Harmonize youe Life. Conversations that inspire, awaken and harmonize. I'm your host, Kingsley Willis, and each week we talk with experts in functional medicine, therapy, technology, quantum biology and personal growth. Today on the show, we have medium Brannon Rust to discuss the astrology of Christmas. I'm also joined by my co host, Amanda Carpenter, the CEO of Aya. Welcome, everyone. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Well, thanks for having us. You hounded me, you stalked me, you found me at a cookie store. And then you were like, please be on the podcast. And I said, yes. And then you said, are you going to eat that cookie? It was kind of. I kind of understand your ulterior motive. I'm glad to be here, though. It's a lot of fun. [00:02:06] Speaker C: So. So you're already telling lies. This is going to be spicy, everyone. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Oh, wow. You're calling me out on Don't I have. Don't I have liberties to, you know, embellish our story? Isn't it the lies that we tell ourselves. I mean, look at how much we Built on being able to tell ourselves that it's not real, but it's real because it's your reality. Oh, what a way to start a podcast. I love you guys. This is so much fun. This stuff on the cutting room floor already. You guys would be like, what are you talking about today? There you go. [00:02:45] Speaker C: Well, you know, I asked you about before we started recording, I asked you about your like origin story because I, I, I like hearing how people got to where they are. Like you're, you've got a very interesting just occupation generally. But then you, you also mentioned how, you know, you do work for the state police. I'm like, huh? [00:03:05] Speaker A: And you, oh yeah. [00:03:06] Speaker C: And then you also mentioned when I asked about origin, you're like, well, and I'll, I'll segue to you. [00:03:14] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I don't know how much time we have, but I started out as a zygote. I grew from there. I almost doubled almost daily. And then, and then from there I, you know, I had to take a window and out the front door. That's a C section joke. And then, and then really kind of developed. Well, you know, it's funny, a lot of mediums want to tell their story. I mean, I told my story in my book. Funny you should say that because I realized like I had all of these gifts and I just had a knack for saying either the right thing or the completely wrong thing, which ended up being the right thing at just the right time all the time. And that was my beginning of understanding, like how gift was applied. It's not just being gifted, it's just not having mediumship or being intuitive. You have to figure out how to use it and how to work with it. And you have all of these cosmic energies, you have all of these things from, think about it. Anything in that kind of mystic psychic, which I don't really like the word psychic, but anything within that kind of a cultish kind of feel to it where people want to be scared. You know, certain people want to, want to find their truth, certain people want to find their purpose. Certain people just like crystals. Certain people just, you know, want to talk about past lives all the time. And there are so many categories that are connected to your self exploration and understanding who you are. I just, you know, when I became a teacher, I started teaching the things that I wish somebody had taken the time to teach me. So as a self learner and being able to project it and show it, you know, I really kind of fancy myself as the storyteller. Whether it be through the teaching, or whether it be through the connection of a loved one, being able to tell their story, being able to say, hey, this is how they passed, and this is what they appreciated about it. And, you know, through that, I found an insane amount of accuracy, an insane amount of creative energy, because creative energy, for me, at least how I'm built, the creativity is a really big thing to me. So, you know, by joking around about, you know, how you stalked me about a, you know, about a cookie thing, you know, you know, of course it's absurd, right? That's what makes it funny. But we've also forgotten. We've kind of skewed now, and there's some astrological reasons, but we've kind of skewed what is truth. And I think even as we come up on the holiday season, which, you know, we talk about the political lies that happen, we have had an institutional lie about Christianity and Christmas and everything else for our entire lives. And we all kind of winked and went, yeah, Santa. Or. Yeah, this is. [00:05:49] Speaker C: I'll stop you right there for anyone listening. If you got kids in the car. Oh, I want to skip this part. [00:05:58] Speaker A: I love that I come with a warning. [00:06:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:01] Speaker A: I mean, I love that I come with a warning. [00:06:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:05] Speaker A: So I was, you know, in being a musician, like, my goal was always to get the PMRC label on whatever recording I was on. Like, I would just. I would swear at the end of every song just so that I got on the PMRC list. It's not necessarily about being right or wrong, although we misconstrued that right. I mean, look at all of our conflicts. It's. It always boils down to one person thinks they're right and one person thinks they're wrong. It's that simple. And when it comes to, you know, like, finding our truth, I mean, that's why I did such a deep dive into astrology, you know, to help me understand it. I heard, you know, people talk about Mercury retrograde, and, oh, it's so awful, and it's bad. It's only awful if you're not prepared for it. It's only awful if you don't like change. It's only awful if it doesn't, you know, if you don't embrace the idea that maybe you didn't do it right. And if your ego's in check, then you're like, oh, gosh, I'll just make it right this time. But if your ego isn't in check, oh, my God, Mercury retrograde's a doozy. This Time. Well, it's always a doozy. It's doing what it's supp. Supposed to do, and you can't blame that. You have no idea where to take this now, do you really, Kingsley? I read people for a living. And that glaze and that glare is pretty fantastic. You know what I appreciated about our conversation? This is. This is a little insight for anybody. That's. Now you guys are following this podcast with Amanda in. Kingsley and Amanda, you and I have a mutual friend that said, oh, my God, you guys gotta talk. Like, you should hear the two of you talk. You guys should hear the two of you. You know, like, you're always kind of like, landing. You're like, ah, it's kind. It's not so good. Things are kind of troubled. But look at this. You can do it. And that kind of positive mindset is the work to me. It's the work. The work comes in when you say, oh, gosh, the cards are stacked against you. The energy is not working for you or whatever. That's where you find identity. You find identity when you go, oh, my gosh, I go ahead and do whatever it is that I feel like I'm meant to do. And we explore these things. We explore shamanism, we go on retreats. We take time for ourselves. We journal. We do all these things. And. And what is it for, aside from our own expression of, like, where our souls are kind of bringing us? Which is why the whole, you know, religion lie is a challenge. By the way, I think religion is actually really good for most people because that's what they need. We. I would not know how to be a good person if I wasn't born and raised Catholic. But that doesn't necessarily mean that I have to subscribe to everything Catholic anymore, because you evolve. You say, oh, okay, that's. That's one thing. That's pursuit of happiness. And then when you do a deeper dive and you begin to understand the world religions and everything else, it's all about what you let in, what you allow in, and what you are willing to assimilate. You know, I can't tell you how many times people will be like, oh, well, I watched this documentary on something which is a good start. But then they're like, yeah, I don't subscribe to any of it. Well, you didn't let anything in. Right. So anyways, Kingsley, where you want to go with us? [00:09:15] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you. So you. You start retrograde. Well, first. First it was the whole Christmas thing, then it was. Mercury is in retrograde. So Maybe let's go back to the Mercury in retrograde thing. I just talked with someone else about listening to your inner, not necessarily your inner child, but your inner, inner voice or your inner critic. And I'm curious to hear take on that because, you know, it's. A lot of it is, is way I approached it is just like, okay, I'm hearing a lot of negative self talk over here. I'm just looking over to this, the shoulder or the you know who, whatever's. [00:10:06] Speaker A: On your left shoulder. I get it. [00:10:08] Speaker C: Is it the left shoulder? I don't even know. But you hear that inner voice, that, that negative self talk. And so, so how do you, how do you deal with that? [00:10:21] Speaker A: Well, for me it's, you know, and again, I can only answer this on being me because I'm. This is the only one that I really, truly have my memory with and it's the only person that I know for sure. You know, my inner monologue is quite often, you know, spirit guides. A lot of my journey was, was sorting out, am I hearing what's going on with you? Am I hearing what's going on? For me, am I understanding that? So once I had to kind of sort that out. That's when things started taking off. Because then I'm like, oh, that's what I sound like. I sound like that. You know, it is a particular sound when I'm talking to myself and that self doubt and that sort of thing. I think self doubt is actually our way of holding ourselves accountable. And when you strike a balance of going, is this okay? It's kind of like you can paint, paint, paint, paint a picture. And until you step back and you go, okay, this works, or what else does this need? Or what is this work in progress, the inner monologue? I think we often hear this negative speak because we are surrounded by negative speak. We're surrounded by disappointment. We're surrounded by the, you know, we're built up into the creation of an illusion. You know, whether it's the illusion that society will put forward to us, you know, everything from the American dream to the, you know, religious to whatever, insert whatever has disappointed you and your critic, your inner critic, your inner voice might turn into like the Siskel and Evert of everything and just pick everything apart because you were fooled once. And that's the type of energy that, like when I pay attention to astrology and popular culture, takes stuff over. And I find myself correcting things all the time. Like, Mercury retrograde is not a bad thing. But everybody talks about it as if it's like the most dastardly thing ever. Well, if you're not prepared for it, of course it's dastardly. You are unprepared and therefore your, whatever, your car breaks down and your refrigerator stops running. You send the wrong email, you say the wrong thing. Anything to do with, you know, technology and transportation, you know, but if you're up on it, guess what? You're like, that's another Tuesday. You know, you don't lose sleep over it. But that inner critic, that inner monologue is meant to help you get better. So you've got to have a relationship with it. But you also have to draw boundaries with that relationship, even with yourself, to be like, listen, I see the negative, but I'm trying to paint, you know, a masterpiece here. I don't, I already know it's not a Picasso. I already know that it's not going to hang in the Louvre. I need it to be an expression of what I'm going for. And all of a sudden you right, tailor the bar to meet where you're at. And isn't that really kind of the key with every relationship is to meet things where they're at and not have expectations? Then inner critic is like, well, it's no Picasso. And you're like, well, I'm not Picasso. All of a sudden the bar changes. [00:13:21] Speaker C: I love that. So I want to get back to your journey. When did you know? When did you know that you had these like, gifts and maybe you could describe what the gifts are? [00:13:39] Speaker A: When did I figure out I was weird? Okay, so. And by the way, there's some balance in thinking that you're weird. And by the way, every kid thinks you're weird, right? Haven't. First of all, we are social creatures. We are not truth seeking creatures. So as a kid, me dropping truth on the regular was like, not accepted. Like, I had a hard time getting picked anything but last on every sports team. And it wasn't because of talent, you know, or so I tell myself, right? Remember that soul speak? Like, oh, yeah, I can hit this jump shot for from 40ft. Come on, come on. It's 40ft. What's 40ft? Anyways, see also why we lost the championship game. But anyways, so, so for me, discovery has kind of been an evolving thing. But I, I saw it as I needed to. So at first it was, huh, this is kind of weird. Like, you know, we're kind of talking a little bit about Christmas here, and we're going to dive into the astrology of Christmas here in a Minute. But. But like, you know, my sisters, I ruined their Christmas one year because I literally shouted out what each present was before they opened it. Because guess what? I was on board with it. Like, I'm like, that's your Cabbage patch. My sisters are like, can I just enjoy it? Like, the first one was like, oh my gosh, you were right. You know, and everybody's kind of looking at each other. My parents are like, lucky guess. But when we got down to like the tic Tacs and stuff, they were like, too much, too much. Like, there's no surprises with you. And then I realized, like, discernment. And I'm like, oh, I can't always say this. When I was in fourth grade, I was in fourth grade, I think I had a teacher that was out for a week and she had, she was out. We had a substitute teacher. She came back in and for whatever reason, I walked up to her desk and I said, mary Ellen is really happy that you're back in class. And she's your favorite teacher too. And you're my favorite teacher. I mean, how old are you when you're in, when you're in fourth grade? 10, give or take. And can you imagine a 10 year old, you know, coming up and saying that to you? Well, she bursts into tears and runs out of the room and I'm like, what did I. I thought I was like giving her comfort. I thought it was encouraging her. I really just wanted to let her know that, you know, she's my favorite teacher. And for whatever reason, I said, mary Ellen. Next thing I know, the principal's pulling me out at a class. Were sitting on a conference call with my mom and you know, and by the way, I aptly titled to represent all the nuns in my story, Sister Mary Knucklepants. So you can figure that out anytime you want. They were not Cannes fashion, but they always wore this kind of polyester nylon skirts or pants. And it was awkward. Knuckle pants. Anyways, so she gets my mom on the phone and she says, I want to understand why your son just thanked Mrs. Danner for being her mother's favorite teacher and wants to welcome her back into class when she buried her last week. So here I am delivering a message and not even realizing it was a message that she was happy that she was back in class. But in her mind, she's still grieving because she buried her the week before. It's the reason why she was out of class. So things like that would happen to me all the time. And like in here I was getting scolded. My mom's like, what are you doing? Like, don't talk to anybody. You know, she was trying to, like, push it down. She was trying to say, like, hey, that's not normal. I have a nun sitting there going, you're nothing but trouble, and you're. You know. She looked at me as if I was like, a demon spawn. I mean, I was. But, you know, not for that, Right? No. The reason why I was a demon spawn was because that very same year, I dressed up like a pregnant nun to school for Halloween. Yeah. And then in the middle of the entire day, I pulled out the pillow and I said, it's a boy. Anyways, that was just my own critique on Catholic school. You guys think you had it easy? Here it is. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Well, I also went to Catholic school, but I'm not going to get into that. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Did you ever get a chance to dress up like a. Like, a pregnant nun? [00:18:10] Speaker C: No, but, like, the last time we spoke, you said something to me like, no sleep till Brooklyn. And I was like, what? What? And. And then I was. And then I had all these, like, flashbacks. I was like, the last time that I performed that song was actually at my fifth grade talent show in. In the Catholic school. So. So weird you said that. I was like, that's weird. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Obesity. Boys just went right over their head, and it was, like, palatable. Yeah, it was. It was diversity because it was three. It was three Jewish kids rapping. We were. We were able to get. Well, you know, if they did any research. It's funny, though, but. But it's amazing to, you know. So you're giving me some validation that whatever it is I said made sense to you on some level. It resonated with you on some level. And that, to me, is kind of like the greater kind of cosmic challenge here. Like, what's our purpose here? What are we doing here? You and I were meant to meet, and by the way, we had a false start out of the gate because we were like, oh, we'll schedule this. And then Amanda, you know, had connection issues, and we were like, oh, we got to reschedule it. And then we all got on the page, the connection was great. And instead, filming it, we just hung around and, you know, shot the breeze. We got to know each other, and it was. And it was like that healthy human connection that, to me, at the end of the day, is really what this is all about. It's not necessarily being right. But I have to tell you that in my lessons, I had to learn that it wasn't about being right, because sometimes I would deliver a message, and I was flat out wrong. But that message was critical. You know, I had a woman and her daughter come to me, and she had a really aggressive form of cancer. She had a Ewing sarcoma, and she was losing. She'd already lost a half of her foot, her leg. And I said, listen, Nurse Sharon, with me, you're getting up on that horse again, you're going to ride again, you're going to write, you're walking down aisles, you're doing things that are for you. And I presented that to her, and she passed away three years later. And I'm like, boy, did I just moonshot that and miss it. And I remember writing, I usually talk about this in the book, too. I'm not plugging the book, really, but it was an important story to my becoming. And I reached out to her and I said, mea culpa, I am sorry I got that wrong. I might have given you false hope. And that was not my intention. And for me, the commonplace of me was I needed to learn how to do that because I had been skirting the. Well, you know. And by the way, I think it's BS when mediums are like, well, it's what spirit gave me. Well, it's, you know, you get what you get. It's. There's an imperfection of this. There's a lot of escapism in mediumship, and I call BS to it. And for me, it was really important to have that accountability. So I reached back out to her, you know, got a cup of coffee, and at the end of it, she said, I really appreciate you're saying this, but I think back to that time, and everybody was about to give up, and you pushed us to not give up. She got back on that horse. She wrote a bunch of journal notes that I go through all the time. She left me a legacy because of that. And she goes, you might have gotten the read wrong, but your impact was incredible. Ta da. So. So that's, you know, but I was willing. But listen, I could have very easily shrugged my shoulders if I didn't get that right and not really try to learn from it. Like I said, we are a social creature. We tend to want to just fit in, and then we dismiss it. You know, mediums do it all the time. They're like, oh, yeah, well, you know, well, it's their energy, it's my energy, it's that sort of thing. And all those things are true. But to not have accountability in it to me, my growth was in the accountability of that situation. It's a thing. [00:22:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:06] Speaker C: Yeah. So, okay, Brandon, tell us, how did you meet Amanda? How did that all happen? [00:22:13] Speaker A: I told you, the cookie store. Like, she was, like, knocking it out of my hand going, don't you want to do this? Well, I think we met at a circle, right? [00:22:20] Speaker B: We did. It was a sound healing circle. Yeah. That was the first time we met. And I remember being in that sound healing circle, and I wanted to let out this primal scream, but I'm like, nobody knows me yet, and I don't want to scare anybody. So, like, I actually. It is not like me to not be authentic, but I was like, yeah, like, we're talking about this discernment, right? Of, like, what comes up versus how do we act on it, like, what is right, what is wrong? You know, and that's an example that Ben just gave us of, like, you know, he was wrong, but, like, if we redefine. But he was right, so it's like, what does. What's the highest and best outcome for the situation, Right? So when it came to now, that primal scream, like, on the surface, it might have been like, okay, I didn't honor my authentic truth, but at the end of the day, there was my humanness. Or, you know, maybe it was the energetic side was reading that. Like, now there's something like, just hold this back, right? So, yeah, the whole idea of right or wrong is something that I'd love to dive in deeper because it's all. For me, it's all about perspective. And there's a little exercise I love to take people through. Let's try it right now. So take your index finger and put it over your head and start drawing a circle that's going clockwise. So your circle is going clockwise. Once you're sure you have it going clockwise, move your finger down below your chin. Keep your circle going clockwise. Move it down below your chin. And is it still going clockwise when you're looking down on it? What direction is it going? [00:24:08] Speaker A: That would be counterclockwise. And by the way, what a great lesson in astrology, right? [00:24:14] Speaker B: So it's all about perspective, right? So if I'm looking at one thing, you know, in one way, it's all, how are we looking at it? Right? So it does come down to this. Like, when we're experiencing something, how do we honor what is our own authentic truth? What is truth? You know, the energy of alignment and the discernment in the moment, Right? And looking back, we might say, oh, I was wrong in a certain way, but, like, it created a whole nother outcome, you know, and so I've learned to step into life and to live life. And that's kind of how Brandon and I came to. Into each other's lives, was through a common friend, because she's like, you guys kind of sound the same, but it's about honoring what is your truth in that moment, because that's all that matters. Like, all we have is presence. And so what feels like the right thing to do, the right answer, you know, the truth, the belief, you know, that our beliefs are just the lies we tell ourselves. So it's all we can do is make a decision in that present moment. And then when we look backward, it's always perfect. It's always perfect. But, you know, being falling victim and being victim is something that, you know, so much of humanity and definitely Americans are addicted to, right? So we're looking for that blame that, like, you know, your fault. It's. It's something else outside of us to blame. And in the meantime, three fingers are pointed back at us, right? So, like that. That whole mercury in retrograde, like, some people are using it as a blame, like, oh, it wasn't me. It was mercury retrograde. [00:25:46] Speaker C: Right. [00:25:47] Speaker A: It's a projection of self and lack of accountability. And unfortunately, we. We've really been missing leadership in this world and in this country. And that's why, like, you know, life coaches have become such a thing, because they show a personal accountability. And by the way, one of the first steps of accountability is saying, you screwed up. It is. It is just one of those things that, like, anybody that's worth their salt that might do any of this work is literally going to come in hot and be like, so there was a time that you might have met me that I was not really at my best. And if that's the only thing you know about me, of course I'm a jerk. And, you know, that's one of the things that I, you know, I've really struggled with because it was almost like I was being held to a higher standard. And I get it to a certain degree, but I was also not allowed to be human either. I was. I was. I. It was like, you need to be this robotic kind of example of things. And meanwhile, I'm kind of like a. No, this spinning in a different direction, and I need to see what this means to me. And then all of a sudden it's like, well, so what you're saying is, is that you changed your mind. I reserve the right to change. I reserve the right to collect more information, to be discerning in this and deciding which way I'm meant to do with that, and if that changes my belief system and changes my belief system. But we're so conditioned to judge because judgment is, is a right or wrong. And well, you can't, you want other people to agree with you. You know, it doesn't take you long on social media to see the people that don't have a lot of like, intestinal fortitude when it comes to their opinion. They want to have people like them. They want to have, they want those likes. Social media is designed to make people be more broken and feel less attached. It's designed for that. It's not designed for unity or connection. It's designed for the social pack mentality that, that we get perpetuated on it. So when Amanda figures out that my perspective might change, it's like, well, Copernicus, so what you're saying is the sun is the center of everything, right? And you get shit shamed for it. I mean, shit shaming is like a sub degree now. And I don't, I don't mean the swear word part of shit shaming. It's exactly what it sounds. It's like, well, I'm going to describe, discourage you from, from doing that. Like, and people are so parochial that they only think that their truth is the only truth in the world class where I talk about ancient civilizations and I definitely have a little bit of a flare of, you know, we talk about things like giants and nephilim and off planet stuff because there's, there's a polite hint of that. While we don't know it, we need to keep it in the forefront of the question. Right? But the one thing that comes through there was this. During World War II, there were a whole bunch of. There was an archipelago that was in between Australia and Japan, and in this archipelago was where the US Dropped all their supplies. So they were, you know, this is where they kept their, their rations. This is where they kept, you know, fueling stations. If you think about it, between the US And Europe, it's like the Azores. It was basically the same idea. So what would happen is, is that they would drop all these supplies and to keep the natives happy, they would give them food, they would give them rations. Right. Well, there's no sophisticated communication. There were no governments to like, shake hands and make deals with. They just assumed it and they put in their tarmac and they landed and they took off. And then to keep the peace. They would go and meet the natives, and it was called the John from movement. And you're like, that's kind of weird. Well, they called them John froms because every single time they would introduce themselves, they'd say, like, I'm John from Chicago. I'm John from New York. So these natives only learned English because of how they were introduced. John from John frum. John from. Well, after the war, they turned around and, like, abandoned them. They were like, ah, we don't need these guys anymore. We don't need to land in the middle of the Pacific ocean, you know, refuel our planes. We don't have to give them rations anymore. Whatever. Well then all of a sudden, their codependency started to starve because they didn't know how to take care of themselves anymore because the John Froms would come and just drop them, you know, six months worth of supplies. Two years later, they were. They were like mad. They were upset. They were lost. So they were literally building straw planes and then lighting them on fire to get the attention of the John from. So they would drop more supplies. How is that any different than any other religion that we are begging for the attention, the forgiveness, the seeking, the acknowledgement, the savior mentality. We have a codependency with religion and faith, and then we look to that to save us. We look to that to be like, explain why it is that it's all of a sudden going in reverse. My reality is blown up. I have faith. You don't have faith. You lack critical thinking skills. Faith is something different. And I'm not saying faith is bad. Faith is something that you say, well, I don't know it yet. I haven't quite explained the missing link yet. I haven't quite understood how we got on this planet yet. But I have faith that we'll figure it out. I have faith in a creator. I mean, at the time being, there has to be a mastermind to all of this. I'm going to question some of their practices and how they went about things. But to think that there's some other plan, this cosmic plan that we give our power away to, maybe it is just random chance, but I can't say for sure until I get there. But I'm going to have faith until I see it. And in the meantime, it's this conditioning that we allow ourselves to feel comfortable and until we change our perspective. And once we do. You know, Amanda, I love that example because you literally blew up somebody's belief system that only looked this way. And then we were like, well, have you ever looked at it from a different positioning? Astrology as a whole is actually that positioning. Our. Your personal astrology would be completely different if you were born on Mars. Think about that. And it's only, what, you know, four tenths of a light year away. You can get there in a matter of about four years at an efficient. [00:32:34] Speaker C: We're going to be there next year, apparently. So I'm curious, you just said your astrology would be different. So for someone who maybe doesn't, I mean, knows about astrology, explain it to us. [00:32:50] Speaker A: So how long is this podcast? Yeah, right. Well, the kids might need a bathroom break. All right, well, astrology has actually been the backdrop of every faith formation ever written down, whether you want to recognize it or not. The Hindus believe in an off planet Ketu. You have Muslims that were following the stars, that were all astrologers, which is which they, they put the negative prophetics on things. Things Christianity in and of itself. The cross is actually the symbolic nature of the astrological cross in the center of the zodiac. That is a representation of it. And when you talk about this and Zeitgeist is a, is a, is a good movie to kind of like get an introduction to it. But there's a deeper thing to this because the entire Bible is actually an astrological symbol. It's everything from going from the time where we had to symbolically move from one age to the other. And I'll give you the example. We had to, you know, deny the golden calf, which is the age of Taurus. And then in procession we went in then into the age of Aries, where we sacrificed the lamb or the ram. And then when we moved into the age of Pisces, it was representative by the sun God Jesus, who was representative of the two fish, which is also Pisces. And they were like, oh, he's a fisherman. Well, why do you think he was gathering fishermen? We were in the age of Pisces. And then we've already virtue signaled to go into the next age, which is the age of Aquarius, because you will come to the edge of town where you will see the water bearer in the house. They were literally saying the house of Aquarius in that moment. And by the way, interesting enough in that. By the way, guys, I have a, I have a degree in religious studies, so I'm not just talking out of my ass here. I'm not, I'm not just a rabbit hole YouTuber, but even in the Bible it appears in, in Mark, I believe. And even when he comes to the edge of town with the water bearer. It is during the persecution of Jesus. It is when Judas is betraying him. So it is actually talking about the betrayal of our current or the demise of a current religious system as we move into the Age of Aquarius. Pluto has moved into Aquarius, and that it's the first sign of the Age of Aquarius. So of course you see this betrayal and the questioning of Christianity right now. It's actually a really deep psychology to it, because what you're seeing in the world right now is a reaction to the codependent breaking away. The Age of Aquarius is actually symbolic of, of you becoming personally responsible for all of your actions. It is taking personal accountability. And that doesn't mean we can't co create like, Amanda Kingsley and Brandon will still get together on these podcasts. But guess what? Kingsley's got to do his part. Amanda's got to do her part. Brandon's got to do his part. When we get together, we kick ass and take names. Whereas once upon a time, collaborations might have been like, I'll do this for you. I'll do that research for you. I'll get that graphic for you. Like, but instead, it's changed. Is going to take care of her stuff. Kingsley's got his stuff, Brandon's got his stuff. And it becomes a different way of thinking. It's tied to religion. And if you get stuck in the old ways, you're like, I don't want to lose it, you know, and that's where you talk about personal redemptions and, you know, all of that other belief system where the reality is, is you're just doubling down on your codependencies. Oh, things just got real, didn't it? [00:36:36] Speaker C: What? Yeah, I was like, can you just give me an intro to astrology? And I'm just like, well, I'll give. [00:36:44] Speaker A: You an introduction to astrology. I'll take a step back and I'll say, astrology is the current weather, that is the astral. Whenever you hear an astrologer talk about the cosmic weather, the astrological weather, those are the conditions that are at play right now. Like, for instance, as we're recording this, we had Mercury just go into retrograde. We have an opposition of Pluto and Mars. We currently have Saturn in Pisces in retrograde, which is just upheaval upon upheaval. Those three things alone are a way for you to have your. Your paradigm shift, to have tensions mount, to have things forced into a different direction, whether you like it or not. And guess what it's going to change. It will get easier. When PI. When Saturn moves into Aries, it is a much more amicable, but not easy. It's still not easy. I mean, there's really only two or three positions where we're. Saturn feels super at home, but at least in Aries, it's kind of like a. Action and double down and get it to where it is that we need to. By the way, it's also in every single rise of an authoritarian state. Saturn tends to be in Aries. That should scare you a little bit. So when you look at the socioeconomic world and you look at the effects of some of these planets, that's what's going on. Now let's, let's boil it down to Kingsley. What are you doing differently? Here's the positive. So you've got this gap where, where Saturn's in. In Pisces, right? During this time, it's a great time for you personally to pull apart all of the things that you thought were structured, all of the things that you thought were exactly the way it was going to be. Like, when you first got into, like, film and communication and that sort, for the first 10 years, you thought it was going to be an audio booth. You thought it was going to be a sound stage. We're broadcasting to millions of people. And you're in your. You're in your bathroom. I'm sorry, you're not in your bathroom. If I didn't lighten that up, people were going to be like, why the. What. What is up with this? Why did she say it was funny anyways? But it's, you know, it becomes that, that thing where that paradigm has shifted. And by the way, that's a remarkable thing. That's a remarkable thing. And by the way, during this time frame, if everybody took stock and think back to like six years ago, your belief system, the things that you held true. And I don't care what it was. I don't care if it's about faith, religion, country, politicians, stars. You know, you know that saying where you never want to meet your idols, like, that has become a real thing because we've become so flat, flat with access that all of a sudden you have disgraced, you know, politicians on cameo. Like, think about a time where it's like, in one way, it felt great. Do you remember when Bill Clinton went on the Arsenio Hall Show? It was like, groundbreaking. It was like a president went to primetime and wasn't at a podium and played the saxophone. Wow. Now we have international politicians Going on podcasts that started for about two grand and broadcast all over the world. That has changed dramatically in our lifetime to what access looks like. Is it good or bad? But we're not judging it. By the way, another interesting thing in tarot, the judgment card is changing. The judgment card was originally about judgment, but to Amanda's point, it's really about discernment. We have to take the people. The world is being divided into two categories. People that discern and people that judge. Pay attention to that. It's a big deal. I'm sorry, did you want a word? Word answer. I don't know what it sound by does. [00:40:55] Speaker C: No. No. So, yeah, this is. This is interesting because. Yeah, you like, you pointed at me. You're like, you used to do audio when you were a kid. Yeah, I don't have it with me right now, but I have. I found these tapes. I'm like, I need to get these digitized. [00:41:13] Speaker A: Did you have mixtape. Did you ever give somebody a mixtape when you were younger? Like, hey, girl, these are my. These are my top five. [00:41:21] Speaker C: Like, hey, this was like a. This was like. I thought I could make my own kind of like variety show. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Love it. [00:41:30] Speaker C: My brother. Yeah. And I was. I think I was like 13 or 14, and I. I just love plugging things in and figuring out how audio works and signals and. And recording things, and it was all audio. So. It's funny you said that. It's like you knew. [00:41:48] Speaker A: Yeah, let's stay on brand. Funny you should say that. [00:41:51] Speaker C: Did I say that? [00:41:53] Speaker A: Yeah, you did. Of course you did. [00:41:54] Speaker C: A little plug for the book. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Of course you did. Well, I have a question for Amanda. Amanda, when you're working with people, do you notice what is their aha moment? And I'm asking this as an astrologer, because I think that there are things in personal astrology where the moon lines up or Mercury lines up, where the sun is. I mean, the sun does the year cycle. Cycle. The moon does the, you know, the 28 and a half day cycle. So your. Your astrology is changing on the daily. What do you attribute, like people's greatest breakthrough? Do you think it's like personal tragedy? Do you think it's self awareness? Like, what do you find? [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah, well, in the. In the clientele that I work with, it. It is a personal tragedy. It is some sort of desperation, you know, and. And coming out of the health field, it was a loss of health. And that's really what woke me up. Like, I am not. If I took a personality test when I was 21. And I took a personality test. Now I'm going to score completely differently because I am not who I was. I wouldn't even be friends with a girl. I was. Right. So. But really what happens is like your whole world kind of falls apart and it's like what I believed to be true wasn't true. You know, and the, I say the beliefs, our beliefs are just the lies we tell ourselves, right? They're just the lies we tell ourselves. So for me personally, it was, it was my belief in the allopathic medical system that I was trained in, had a doctorate in, had a very successful practice in. Yeah, it was that system that then failed me and didn't have answers for me. That kind of. And then the same thing happened to my dad and that's what woke me up to like, wait a minute, wait. I, I can't give my power away to this system. Like, I can't believe everything that they tell me. Like, I wouldn't be alive if I did believe what they told me. You know, they told me that I had a mental health condition, that everything was all in my head and I had a head based condition. But it was, it was lyme encephalitis. My brain was infected. [00:44:04] Speaker A: I would pay attention to your sixth house on that one. Keep going. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So, but here's all like the funness, the juiciness and all of it. Like, you know, there could have been a suffering aspect of things. And when we lose our health, we become present. All that matters is feeling better. Right. And, and so it really was a wake up call that I needed to not only see things differently, but to also learn to be present, like what is important. Because I didn't care if I lived one more day, if I had to feel like this. So the future no longer mattered. It put me in the present moment. And until then I had a really hard time staying in the present moment because I didn't want to feel what was inside of my body. Right. I didn't want to feel all of the feelings and the memories and the emotions and all of that. So to just project myself into the future was my way of. It was my addiction, you know, to work. So, and I would say something very similar to all of my clients is there becomes some desperate moment related to their physical body that causes them to like, to start to have faith in a different way. So there's faith in a knowing and there's a faith in throwing caution to the wind because I don't want to change my beliefs. So I'm just going to tell myself that this system is going to save me. Even though there's a knowing inside of me that it's not the wind. So the way that I describe that is kind of like a grounded faith versus an ungrounded faith. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:34] Speaker B: And again, that discernment of like, no, I have a knowing inside of me and a trust. So anyway, that was my personal kind of awakening. You know, I incarnated into this planet to be some sort of healer, facilitator. And I did what every 17 year old does, is like I chose a profession that kind of put me on the path. Right. And then I realized, wait a minute, this system, this isn't. I can't do it my way. I can't use the skills that I came into this world with. And I didn't want to admit that. So my physical body was taken out so that I had to see that. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know, here's the other thing too is everything you just said is astrological and you're like, whoa, B, what is up with that? Yeah, because we have the cycles of planets. I can tell you with some level of predictability when some of those things happen for you, right as you're going into the age of 21, you hit the quarter pole for really it's kind of at 21, where the quarter pole of Uranus, the Uranus return is actually at 84 years. And you're like, oh my gosh. Well, that's not, you know, I hope I make it to 84 plus. Right. We hope we get our Uranus return in. Well, at 21, you're at the quarter pole. At 42, you're at the opposition. So in other words, where Uranus is when you're born to where it transits to where the sky is today, at 42, it's an opposition of your Uranus, which is where most people have their midlife crisis, right? Give or take. There's an astrological reason for it. You also have Jupiter, which jumps pretty consistently to 12 years. Right. 12, 24, 36, 48 and 60. During those times you have the initial jump, which is at 12 years old, you're a pretty good softball player. You're a pretty good basketball player. You're pretty. You have some skills and you're promoting your. And by the way, whether they like it or not, it lines up with psychology and personal development. Whether you like it or not. It absolutely does that because then you jump to 24, where you get a skill, you know, by then think about where you're at, at 24 you've got a degree, ish, give or take. You might still be exploring it, you might not. But at 24 you've got some things under your belt that you can really focus in on, right? And then let's just skip 30 for a second and we'll go to 36 and that's where you become established. By 48 you're becoming an expert. By 60 you're becoming a legacy, right? So you, you start to kind of see those 12 years increments of your growth, your expansion, your knowledge, right? Then comes along Saturn, which is actually a malicious planet because what it does is it grounds you, it brings you back, it makes you take a step back. But it's important that it's there because at about 29 and a half, but we're going to call it 30 for 30 sake, you become more concrete. This is where you say, am I making a life? Where aren't I? 2.3 kids, white picket fence, where am I going with this? I'm becoming established, this is what I'm doing. And just following the cycle of Saturn, then you get into 60 years old, which is what am I doing here? Am I still doing these immature things? Because I'm really. Now you're fully into legacy, you're fully promoting legacy, you're fully wanting to kind of be like, you know, this is where you're setting up things of like, oh, I want to take care of the grandkids, I want to take care of the butterfly farm. You want to, you start to look at those things. Now I'm going to point out two places in your life where it is sheer catastrophe, but it is a rebuilding of self. Between the ages of 24, your second Jupiter returns and 30 years old, your Saturn return is what age Split the difference, what do you got? 27. Why is 27 so famous? Ask Janis Joplin, ask Kurt Cobain. The 27 Club is actually an astrological anomaly where people fall apart and become self destructive because they're their potential to expand and their potential to become concrete. Clash and they go down this path of a dark over, drinking, negative thoughts, suicide, that sort of thing. 27 is an astrological condition. The other astrological condition is between 42 when Uranus is in its opposition, and 48 with the great expansion, more men commit suicide between 42 and 48 than any other age. Because you're going from the place of pure empowerment of I should know better to what the hell am I doing here? What did I actually progress My youth is gone. The rebel without a cause is suddenly just without a cause. And if you start to pay attention to these things, you can actually start to build in solutions for them. You can start to say things like, your astrology is going to change tomorrow. Now, those big picture things are going to be there. That's the astrological weather to you. So how do you deal with that? You're going to have some tough days. You're going to have some full moon days. And by the way, the full moon is an opposition of the sun to the moon. That's why werewolves come down. This is why, you know, vampires reign supreme. This is why we create all of these knowledge. I know. Kingsley, catch up, will you? Transylvania. It's next year's retreat. Amanda and I are going to take everybody to a castle. [00:51:13] Speaker C: I thought it was Aruba. [00:51:17] Speaker A: First. We'll do Aruba. I kind of like that. I mean, Transylvania can be cold anyway. It's also not real, but whatever. There's Kingsley once again going, can we go to the North Pole? No. Anyway, but that conversation, that dialogue about understanding astrology, I mean, I went through a really rough period in my life. I'm like, this isn't all man. This isn't all me. And I went down that blame game. It was the Catholic Church. It was my parents. It was my. It was this one, it was that one. No, it wasn't. The conditions were prime for people to take advantage of me because I didn't know who I was. I'll say that again. The conditions were prime for people to take advantage of me because I didn't know who I was. And guess what? Now that I'm on the other side of that, I know who I am. You can't push me around. You can't do that. And by the way, the younger version of me, easy pickings. You could have made me feel guilty because I still had the Catholic stuff on board. You could have made me feel like less than what I was because the image of myself isn't there. I've been growing out my hair. And somebody goes, aren't you worried that you might lose viewers because you're growing your hair out? I'm 51 years old. I'm at the I don't give a shit method. I really am. I'm just like, what? Well, you don't have to wash it. What do you care? Well, if you cut it, it'll grow back. Thanks for the advice. Right. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, I'm trying to. I. I'm 51. And I want to be 15. I want to feel 15 again. My hair looks like I'm 15 again. And by the way, how many 51 year olds do you know that can grow it out like this again? Am I right or am I right, ladies? Right? Am I saying it right? There you go. [00:52:59] Speaker C: You got a full head of hair. [00:53:01] Speaker A: Listen, I glued it on this morning. But astrology has a lot to do with our evolvement, our involvement, and how we see ourselves in the world. To your point, Amanda, it's always perspective. Always. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So that was so. That was so much fun. I was over here with my calculator trying to figure out at what years I was, is what age. So. So here's what I've got for you. So you talked about 27. You know, there was definitely some disruption at 27 for me. And I was one that could never use substances because they always made me so sick. So like at two drinks, I'm like drunk and puking at the same time. Like drunk and hungover, cannot use any sort of substances. So at like I was. I used words, work and exercise as my addictions is what I did. [00:53:54] Speaker A: Again, I want to see your sixth house. I mean, it's such a. It's. It sounds so like, like pervy when you're like, I want to see your six house, kid. Show me your six. [00:54:01] Speaker C: Wait, did I just hear that right? [00:54:03] Speaker A: That's right. Kingsley, hold the camera. [00:54:05] Speaker C: All right. [00:54:08] Speaker A: So. So what else did you find in your search with that? [00:54:10] Speaker B: So at 27, there was like something missing in my life. That's when I decided to go back to school. So I've been practicing as a physical therapist at that point in time for five years. But like something missing. I was looking for something more. Like something was out of balance. I had just gotten married or was going to get married in September, and so it was like May of that year I decided to do my doctorate. So I started my doctorate work the same year, just a couple months before I actually got married. So it was like I was looking to fill something Must have been out of balance, right? I was like looking to like, I didn't necessarily need to pursue my doctorate. So that was a piece. And then at 36, 2014, like that is when I worked with. There was this. I'll save the story for another time, but you can appreciate it. Somebody gifted me a past life reading with a spiritual mentor, advisor, you know, medium. And I really had no idea what that was all about. So I, I sign up, I go to this Past life reading. And she didn't tell me too much about past lives, but she told me what my soul's mission was. And it ended up like changing my life. So my soul's mission, she said, was to heal with my mouth, not my hands. Now let's keep it clean. [00:55:29] Speaker C: We'll even go in there. [00:55:31] Speaker A: You know, it's bad when I go off screen where it's just kind of like a. That's where you're like, Brandon's totally gonna. By the way, Amanda, good job by you knowing me enough to be like preemptive there. [00:55:44] Speaker B: I know. So, like, I had something to say in this world, but. But there was, there was this fear within me at the time. Again, physical therapy, like the system had failed me personally. I was feeling better and I knew that there was something more. And to feel fulfilled, it's like, like, what am I going to do in this world? Because physical therapy never. It didn't feel okay anymore. So it was 2014, so I was 36. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Well, of course, that is your third Jupiter return. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Yes, that's why I'm. Yeah. So that's when I started my other business. [00:56:20] Speaker C: 2014. [00:56:22] Speaker B: That was 2014. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Yep. [00:56:23] Speaker B: So 2014. [00:56:25] Speaker C: So I'm doing the calculation on myself, but you continue. [00:56:31] Speaker B: So that's when I chose to start down the path that I'm on now, you know, so I kept Carpenter physical therapy and the physical therapy practice, but I started just to pull myself out of practice and the staff kept it going and I started the wellness side of my business, Core Health Solutions. But yeah, so how interesting. And then I'm not to 48 yet. I'm 46 now. So like, like that's another big year. So we've got like, you know, a year and a couple of months until. Tell me what's going to happen at 48. [00:57:01] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you also recognize too that, you know, at 45 and by the way, at 45 is an interesting time because that's kind of the cycle of. That's another breaking point where I, you know, mentioned that. I hope I wasn't, you know, kind of shocking people with that. The highest, you know, exit rates are during those times that 42 to 48 is where you have. At 45, you have Saturn squared to Saturn again. So you have another quarter pole there. That where Saturn and what when Saturn talks to Saturn, it's tough love, you know. So at 45ish, about 44 because of the anomalies there with the, with the retrogrades or whatever. But at 44, you're literally looking in the mirror going, who are you? What are you doing? Like, is any of this stuff working? The astrology is meant to be an evaluator. Unfortunately, the weight of the world sometimes makes you evaluate it in that negative space. That's negative self talk, that negative piece of it. And that's how, that's the reason why like personal coaching is at an all time high right now. Because we don't know how to cope it. Once you become aware of it, like now you're aware of it on another level, you're looking at it in retrospect. But like if I knew back then what I know right now, I would be able to kind of like conquer this a little or at least you would have a different perspective. Right. You know, and, and we'll be topical for 30 seconds to plant the seed for the next topic which is, you know, the whole Santa Claus thing and how we fulfill Christmas is a fallacy. Right. When you start to realize before we. [00:58:48] Speaker C: Get to Santa, I just want to. [00:58:50] Speaker A: Get one last, you know, I want to dive into that, you red coated mother. [00:58:57] Speaker C: So you mentioned the astrology, the different points, you know, how ages, how do we prepare? Like, what's the, like, what's your advice to us? [00:59:08] Speaker A: Well, I'll be super simple. I'll be super simple, but very poignant simple. So if you know that between the ages of 24 and 30, you're going to feel like you don't value yourself and you're, I don't know, I can't speak for every situation, but I will tell you, Amy Winehouse didn't have the things around her to help her be successful. Successful her out was still that alcohol. So the preparation isn't to say look out for this date. The preparation is being able to say I'm going to build my life and I'm going to structure my life around things that aren't going to put me in dangerous way. Right. You know, you may say, hey, today's a lucky day, but you're not going to hang twenties out of your pocket and go down a dark alley. That's stupid. You're not setting yourself up for success. But if you say to yourself, I'm never going to hang to even on my luckiest days, I'm not going to hang twenties out of my pocket and go down a dark alley. You're setting yourself up for success by creating an environment or avoiding situations. You know, Amanda brought up drinking alcohol. I'm built the same way. I mean me drinking a couple of drinks, spirits Just like go to sleep. You're useless to us. Like, I pass out. Like I don't even whatever. And I enjoy a beer maybe three times a year. It's usually accompanied by a Reuben. But, you know, that's my root. That's me getting back to my culture, right? So the best way to prepare for that is I know somewhere around that day, I'm taking a day and I'm not going to be working on either side of it. This is not fair to spirit. Spirits deal with me as you can't do this on the regular. Me as a human is like, I kind of need to have a Guinness and a corned beef sandwich. Like it's a thing, right? So I prepare for it. I don't, you know, I make sure it's on a day off. I make sure that I. And I never, I've never understood this. I got to get this off my chest. I've never understood mediums that drink. I've never understood that. And I'm all, you know, I get it. Well, you've got to have, you know, it's a way to associate with people. It's a way to, to, you know, to, to unwind and that sort of thing. If you don't have a good meditation practice as a medium and you need alcohol or any other embankment that might chill you out up to an inc, including cbd. And I'm not saying you can't take it for pain. I'm not saying you can't. Whatever. I'm talking about anything, Water and air. You should be able to operate on that. It baffles me. It baffles me. And, and I know I'm being hypercritical here, but you're self inebriating yourself. You're dehydrating your cells, your memory. That's what you're trying to do when you're drinking alcohol. You're trying to forget things. You're trying to make the cell memory go away. And it never does. Even if it's completely dehydrated. Those memories of the cell is just. Yeah, you tried to kill us again on that night when you drank too much. Let's say a 10. That's it. Thank gosh. How do we get on this topic? Because I had to get it off. [01:02:29] Speaker B: We could do a whole other topic on what we do as humans. To disassociate, right? To not feel. Because feeling is the bravest thing a human being can do, right? To feel those emotions that, you know, we've tried so hard throughout our life. To mask. And one of the things I appreciate about Aya is it's a way of bringing us home to our body to feel. So, yeah. So that feeling and what we do as humans to feel. We'll leave that for another time. But I do have to. Here's another plug for Brandon reading the field. Since I traveled to Aruba and watched the Amy Winehouse documentary, I cannot get the song. It tried to make me go to rehab. And I said, no, I cannot get that song out of my head. And the fact that you could have picked how many musicians, how many celebrities? Because a lot of people, that is the issue, is that they can't handle the rise. And you picked her. So, like, the information was in the field. Right. And you picked up on it. [01:03:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Okay, Right. [01:03:33] Speaker C: Well, should we bring this home on Santa's sleigh? [01:03:38] Speaker A: Sure. Oh, my gosh, look at you go. Okay, listen, I need you to grease that axle, baby, because we're coming in hot. That's how we're doing it. And by the way. And by the way, can we talk about the physical, the physics of Santa? Like, there's no breaks. Like there's no breaks. Like, how do you stop on the rooftop? That's a short window, right? The tarmac in Albany is tight enough. I'm just kidding. I'm just making up stuff. But. But no, I say this often that we are astrologically and we as a humankind are discovering the truth about all of the illusions that we have. It is literally Christmas Eve on the age of humanity, and we're staying up late to see if Santa comes in, and we're being disappointed that Santa's not coming in. We're ripping off the truth. In the microcosm of the John Frum movement is our own faith, because it was built on a structure of, you know, believing in things that we couldn't gain back. The codependency of thinking that something was going to come and take care of us. The idea that we were going to be, you know, humans in existence and co create and all that other good stuff. But what it did is it gave us a codependency. I mean, even think about you as a kid with Christmas, like, oh, I don't have this now, but I'll have it on Christmas morning. And whether or not you had a good Christmas or not was whether or not your parents were savvy enough to pay attention to all of the clues and the hints that you gave them without tipping their hat that they were the guy in the red suit. And we're so at a place of evolution that we're starting to see that there's no man in a red suit. There's nobody that's going to come and save us. Not our partners, not our besties, not our whatever. Now, they're important to our life. They're important to see that. But, but I think a best friend isn't somebody that's there when your life falls apart. I think a best friend is somebody that sees your growth when everybody else just sees your struggle. And I think that's the new codependency. The new codependency isn't, I'll do this for you. The new codependency is going to be, I see you, I see your growth. How about that one? [01:06:01] Speaker C: That's not where I was expecting you were gonna go, but it was beautiful. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Well, listen, I, I could talk about how, you know, our parents are set up in this dichotomy of their, their, you know, basically they're conditioned to lie to us because they were lied to. And we perpetuate this big, giant freaking lie. And, and we talk about a greater good of the lie. And the greater good is, is, well, you don't want to take away that, that, that sense of faith, that sense of wonder, that innocence, that, whatever. And trust me with a, you know, I have an 11 year old who was really hanging on until last year. Like, he was really hanging on. He was like, did you move the elf? Did you like. I mean, he was right down to the core of it. And then somewhere between, you know, last Christmas and here, and he's like, you know, it's like their, their step in growth and he's going to turn 12 here soon. He literally turned to me and was like, yeah, I kind of know the real deal about Santa Claus. And by the way, as we become adults and we look back and we hear all the stories of our mom and dad, we put two and two together and we're like, holy shit. Mom and dad were working three jobs, so we had a Christmas. Our parents sacrificed ourselves. So the lesson of that lie isn't about it. And by the way, they gave themselves away to the lie. They're the ones that wanted to work harder so then we wouldn't know the difference. They were trying to protect us in our bubble, which, by the way, is a core component of codependency. They help us create our reality that isn't reality, our safety, our bubble. And when you're 8 years old, the only thing you cared about was that cabbage patch the only thing that you cared about was that pony. Whatever it is, your favorite gift was for me. It was millennial falcon. Kind of nailed that one, didn't I Kingsley? You actually get the millennial Falcon. The millennial falcon. But you wanted it. [01:08:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Who didn't? Yeah. [01:08:08] Speaker A: So what you're saying is low hanging fruit? [01:08:12] Speaker C: No, I. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Are you left handed? [01:08:17] Speaker C: No. [01:08:18] Speaker A: But your brother is? [01:08:21] Speaker C: No. [01:08:22] Speaker A: Who's the left handed one? Your dad? [01:08:27] Speaker C: I don't know of anyone. [01:08:29] Speaker A: Who's left is the one with the L. Yeah, I saw you look down at him. [01:08:35] Speaker C: Who's left handed in my family? But I can't think of anyone. [01:08:38] Speaker A: But you're very right brained, you're very creative brain. I think that's how they're showing it to me. So you, like for you logic actually pisses you off? [01:08:54] Speaker C: I think that I like to think that I am more like I'm pretty balanced. Like I appreciate the science, I appreciate the logic, but I also appreciate the creative side of things. I actually think I'm kind of like caught in that sort of scientific area mainly. But then there's the creative bit because I like to explain things, I like to teach, explain, and I do that through creativity. [01:09:31] Speaker A: I love everything about that. [01:09:33] Speaker B: It's interesting that you say science because the way and coming out of the health field, like, you know, science, science, science, there's a foundational science of like the laws of the universe and there's a human science, you know. And that's another lie that I realized. Like they essentially when I took statistics in college, like towards my master's degree and then eventually towards my doctorate and all the research, they taught me how to lie using numbers. [01:10:01] Speaker A: Wow. [01:10:02] Speaker C: I took that class too. And I was like, oh my gosh. [01:10:05] Speaker B: They taught me how to lie with numbers so that my research would somehow support the hypothesis, right? So like I can't unknow that once I knew it, right. And so still to this day science, it's like, eh, who's science? Right? [01:10:19] Speaker A: Like I, when in doubt, margin of error. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:10:24] Speaker A: When in doubt, margin of error, like it's close enough horseshoes and hand grenades, you know. And like even though you're like, hi, I have empirical evidence. And by the way, that has been my quest as a medium. I wanted empirical evidence. Because by the way, if you've ever heard a reading from me, like, if you just heard me and didn't hear the person's reaction, you would think I was batshit crazy because I'm just spewing things. I'm just like, yeah, and they're showing me this and they're doing this and you're just like. But if you hear the other person on the other side saying, yeah, that was exactly my mother. This exactly the thing she would say. You're actually acting like her right now. That was our kitchen. That was whatever. Like, they're giving me what I need as empirical evidence. And by the way, it's not quantitative except for experience driven. Aha. So our quest to find our truth, truth isn't in numbers. It's in empirical evidence of experiences. Now do you see why astrology is suddenly so important? Because you have this unseen force that's acting upon us with consistency and regularity that people are like, oh, it's woo woo. That's my favorite thing. When people are like, oh, that's woo woo. And you're like, bullshit. Every revolution starts with Uranus. Every revolution starts with this containment. Every new, like, advancement in science and technology happens with these indicators like, like there. When it becomes a pattern that becomes the, the undeniable. Like, okay, this is your empirical evidence. Well, is it a number? Is it concrete? It's a consistency. It's a consistency. And that's why we can't shape Christmas. I mean, listen, when you really look at Christmas in the United States, it is a bastion of consumerism. Like, like Charlie Brown had it, right? Like Charlie Brown in 1963 absolutely said, this is Christmas to you. It's tinfoil trees and presents under the tree. And by the way, just to add to that, in the Peanuts cartoons, there's no grownups. [01:12:43] Speaker B: Just like in reality. We all have that child inside of us, right? Like who's running the show. If our nervous system is triggered, we have the ability to rationalize at the level of a three to five year old, right? And so we are having more stress responses as humans, like, more than ever. We're designed to have maybe, maybe one every five days. And we're having the last evidence, which is which, which is old now, 100 a day, right? So we're living in these tunnels and you know, I wonder if maybe part of the reason that we're hanging on to the aspect of Christmas is we're hanging on to that sense of wonder, you know, because we all have this amazing sense of wonder. [01:13:22] Speaker A: You want the. [01:13:23] Speaker B: Then we're told it's a lie, right? So then this idea of woo woo is like, what else would be true if I chose to believe that? And we're so afraid to believe because maybe somebody's lying to us, right? So this, you know, really, it's this joy and this wonder. And the other aspect of Christmas is this coming together, this community, this giving, you know, and receiving. And it feels better to give a gift than it does to receive it, because when we're giving, we're in control, right? It is. [01:13:55] Speaker A: You also let off your guilt. That's why it always feels better to give a gift than to get a gift, because you. That is the guilt component that comes into codependencies. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Yes, it is. Very. It can be such a challenge to receive. And when I'm working with clients, I ask them, how much. How much could you tolerate receiving without it having power over you? [01:14:16] Speaker A: Right? [01:14:17] Speaker B: Because of that guilt, that assumption. Somebody gives me, you know, $25,000 out of nowhere. Well, this must carry some assumptions with it, like, I must owe them, or there's some sort of control with it rather than just like, no, I'm amazing in what I did with them. I'm worthy. [01:14:36] Speaker A: Worthiness, huh? [01:14:38] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. So I wonder how much, again, that, you know, that Christmas we talk about this, how much we're still clinging onto it as adults because we're clinging onto that wonder, right? And, like, what I want to share with everybody is that wonder is available. Like, that's kind of the world I think we live in. And, Brandon, you and I, like, we have access to it anytime we want to chat, right? We have access to it just by opening our eyes 100%. It's always available. But so many have been led to believe that it's a lie. [01:15:09] Speaker A: And again, you begin to understand, like, my quest as a medium, I want to find that empirical data. That's why I've done over 25,000 readings, literally where I have found 25,000 pieces of evidence. And by the way, some of them weren't my best work. But that's where things like, hey, Brandon, you stayed up too late the night before. You didn't eat chicken salad. You were. You know, you had nothing but fries for dinner. You know, like, those are the things that come into play, right? And if you're a work in progress, you'll begin to manage that and bring it forward and all that other good stuff, right? Well, you know, you. You know, you talk about. You talk about, like, how your quest is in this. For me, it is absolutely embodied, trying to get to the truth. I talk to dead people, and I resonate with things that go on in the world, and I can call BS on it in two seconds. And they're like, how do you know that? Show me proof I got 25,000 readings where I was pretty right on most of them. And that becomes that empirical data. And I know we're kind of headed towards the end of this here, but I want to have a course correction here too. I mentioned 1962 for the PDF nut special, and I have a funny story connected to this. It actually premiered on December 9, 1965. And when we're ready to wrap up, I'll wrap up with the story about the. About that special premiering. But how do you want to wrap this up here, Kingsley? [01:16:39] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I do like that. The idea of wonder and that we have access to it, that was. That's kind of like as you're talking about all the Christmas stuff, which I won't say out loud because I've got kids in the house, it's okay, you. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Can still dress up like an elf. [01:16:57] Speaker C: But it is that idea of wonder, I think, that, that we want to hold on to. But Amanda, you're saying we can access it anytime we want to. And I think the question is how? How do we do it? [01:17:10] Speaker B: It. Yeah. Well, so it's individual and unique to everybody, right? So there it is. When it comes to, when it comes to beliefs, we have to allow ourselves to shift our belief system. Because if I was still anchored to the belief system that I was raised with, which was also Catholic, right. My belief system would, would be that there's this, you know, powerful man in the sky that wants to discipline me and can see me, like, in the privacy of my own home. [01:17:39] Speaker A: Right. [01:17:40] Speaker B: He sees everything. And I'm gonna beg for forgiveness. And so I'm so grateful that there were people that came into my life who I call Earth angels. Like, they wasn't by accident because I don't believe in those, in mistakes. Like, I don't believe in mistakes. So they came into my life to share with me their beliefs. And I was like, huh, that's interesting. Like, and I might have rejected them at first, but then I realized, like, oh, our beliefs are just the lies we tell ourselves. And this lie makes better sense than this lie. As far as keeping my nervous system calm. So treating that little girl inside me. [01:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Coping mechanisms. Yeah. [01:18:20] Speaker B: I'm going to grab onto this belief system, you know, or this idea of past lives. I will tell you, as a physical therapist doing myofascial release and processing trauma out of the body, I had patients have past life experiences on my table. Before I knew what that was, I had this 24 year old one say, ah, that's where I was shot. In World War II. And I was like, what the hell just happened? Like, what? Because I didn't. This was before 2014. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Working out amongst yourselves. Work it out amongst yourselves. [01:18:51] Speaker B: I didn't have a foundational belief. So then it happened to another patient, and she was a little bit older and had this wisdom. So, like, when she came up, I'm like, well, help me understand this whole past life idea. And she said to me, go read the book, Many Masters, Many Lives, and you get to decide for yourself. Brian Weiss. And that was the best thing she ever could have. Like, I read that book on a flight that was three and a half hours long. I'm not a quick reader. And the book was done before I landed, and my whole idea of death had shifted, and my fear of death was like, totally different just by reading that book. And he doesn't tell us what to believe. He shows us empirical evidence and we get to decide what we want to believe. That's what I love about it. [01:19:35] Speaker A: And listen, it would one, I would be remiss if I didn't tell you that I am a past life regressionist. I studied under Brian, you know, and I've. I've done the workshops, I've done the work, I've got the certificates, I've done all that stuff. And it's interesting because when you, when you start to pull it apart, you know, I'm the type of student that looked at his stuff and went, that's mostly right. You know, I came up with my own concepts of things too, which I think is how we improve upon it. Whenever a student takes my stuff and says, yeah, Brandon, but you missed this. You know, I'm trying to answer that. I'm like, cool, keep going. You know, that sort of thing. But of course. And by the way, you read that book in perfect timing exactly when you were supposed to. Exactly when you were supposed to. And it's funny. It's like, it's not about turning skeptics to believers. It's about revealing it when they're ready to understand it. And I have a great story and let me tell the story and then we can wrap up here. So I came to this woman in a gallery. I do a lot of galleries and anywhere from 40 to 100 people. And I get to almost everybody every single time and all that other good stuff. And I came to this woman and I said, was your mother like a Peanuts fan? Because she's showing me the Christmas special over and over and over again. I go, you know, she's just like this Is my favorite. I go, did she, like, binge watch it? Was this her favorite? And she goes, well, you know, I think she. I think she would, you know, like, had a couple of snoopy things, but it was kind of arbitrary. It wasn't like she went out and collected them, and she. And when it was on, she would watch it. It wasn't like she went out of her way or whatever. And I'm like, hon, I'm telling you, this is really significant because how she was showing it to me because I took the evidence of what was important to somebody when they passed and why they would show it to me, how they would show it to me. And sheet was like, this isn't going to go away. She's not going to let this go till we figure this out. And because it's a show, I'm kind of like, all right, I got to move on. But we're going to. We're going to, you know, place that in there. And then I'm thinking to myself, like, you're kind of a pain in the neck. Like, what's going on with you? Are you Virgo? She goes, oh, yeah, I'm born, like, right on the cusp. And I'm like, you were born on the cusp? And I said, you know, were you born in 1966? She goes, oh, yes. Yeah. And I said, okay. I go, minus nine months and eight days. You were conceived during the Peanuts Christmas special. And she went. Because I looked it up, and it was December 10, 1965, and she was born. I think, on. I. I think it was. I think it was August. August 21, 1966. It was somewhere in there, but it was a reasonable amount that she would. That it would have been, you know, her due date. And she sat there and she went, oh, my gosh. And I said, yeah, I think you were conceived during the peanut special. I go, you're welcome. [01:22:35] Speaker C: She's like, is that why I love this so much? [01:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, oh, I don't know. I gotta think for Vince Guaraldi, too. I don't know what that is. Anyways. All right, guys. Well, thanks so much for having me. [01:22:47] Speaker C: Well, thank you for. For sharing all the things. Opinions. I'm gonna try to, like, awkwardly stop Santa's sleigh right now or land Santa's sleigh first, then try to stop. [01:23:00] Speaker A: You saw hail light's good. [01:23:03] Speaker C: Salt. [01:23:03] Speaker A: You know, you use salt on the roof. I don't. [01:23:06] Speaker C: I don't. [01:23:07] Speaker A: You would think. [01:23:08] Speaker C: You would think that makes it melt. [01:23:12] Speaker A: Just Refreeze. And let's be honest, if we knew. I mean, think about the deception of this. They don't even tell you about what time. I mean, sure, it's midnight, but not really. Although I do love a good NORAD tracker. [01:23:25] Speaker C: It's so funny you say that, because I. Oh, it might have been around 2014, actually, when I actually animated the reindeer for NORAD on for Google, so. Those reindeer. [01:23:41] Speaker A: Shut up. [01:23:42] Speaker C: Yeah, shut up. [01:23:43] Speaker A: I'm on fire over here. [01:23:46] Speaker C: And they reused them for years, and not. Not my best work, but they still loved it. [01:23:51] Speaker A: Well, here's another fun fact. Between 2019. No, actually, it was 2020 and 2000. I think they used it up until last year. I was the voice of Winter Wonderland when you went to Macy' Elsewhere. Welcome to Winter Wonderland. Oh, yeah. [01:24:13] Speaker C: I gotta say, you're. You're. Especially with the hair growing out, you're giving Santa vibes. [01:24:18] Speaker A: Is this it? Is this it right here? I gotta turn the beard, though. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. Maybe I'll go full Santa next year just for you. Kingsley. I'm not inviting you to sit on my lap, though. If it happens, it happens. I don't have any expectations, though. It's the reason why we're so good at what we do. We have no expectations. But if it happens, so be it. [01:24:38] Speaker C: On that note, an extra thank you to Brandon. [01:24:42] Speaker A: That's one way to get out of it, isn't it, Amanda? What's that? I said, that's one way to get out of this, huh, Amanda? [01:24:53] Speaker C: Any last words, Amanda? [01:24:55] Speaker B: Well, Brandon, thank you so much. You know, when it comes to choosing our beliefs, when it comes to creating our own reality, when it comes to, like, seeing things within our life, we. We have a choice. And. And sometimes it can hit people like a ton of bricks. And what I so appreciate about you is you keep it so light, right? And you remind us that, like, what is reality? Like, you know, you. You throw these little jokes in with some of the hard information. What I say is hard information is there's this. There's this cognitive dissonance and this state of, like, when somebody gets information that they can't unhear, the whole world changes and their whole nervous system can freeze. And you're, like, right there to deliver a joke, to make it a bit more gentle. And three weeks later in the shower, they're like, oh, that's what he meant. And their whole life changes in a positive way. So thank you for the joy that you bring in this world and spreading all the work that you're spreading and helping people to tap into this sense of wonder that both of you and I know is available to all of us. You know, life doesn't have to be a struggle or difficult or difficult. But we do have choices and we need to be responsible for the one in the mirror. And we all really need to start loving the one in the mirror. If we start with this, then we all can come together collectively. So thank you for the work that you're doing to help people honor that one in the mirror. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Happy to be part of it. Thanks, guys so much. I'm going to give you guys my hard top. Thanks for having me. And remember to keep going. [01:26:27] Speaker B: Take care. Bye. Bye. [01:26:28] Speaker C: And I'm gonna figure out what you meant by left handed. [01:26:33] Speaker B: Three weeks later in the shower, he's gonna be like, that's who it was. [01:26:36] Speaker A: No, I think it's a creative thing. I think it's how your brain works. Were, were you. Did they teach you to write with your right hand, though? Like, were they adamant? I usually think you're left handed, but they force you to write right handed. [01:26:52] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. I think you're right. That's exactly it. I don't know if I was just terrible. [01:26:59] Speaker A: And you should try reading with your left hand for a day. [01:27:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I've heard that's. That's a good thing to try. I. I tried brushing my teeth with my left hand for a few days. That was. [01:27:10] Speaker A: Keep going, keep going. You're onto something. All right, guys, thanks again. [01:27:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:27:14] Speaker B: All right. [01:27:15] Speaker C: Thank you for your time and this was a great episode and have a wonderful holiday. [01:27:20] Speaker A: See you next time. [01:27:22] Speaker C: Thank you for joining us on this episode of Harmonize youe Life. We hope you found inspiration and practical insights to enhance your well being. Until next time, stay well and keep shining.